It's alright, gonna be honest I just red like 30% of your message, it was way too long
I hope you didnt call me names or something like that.
Just to be sure, I'd like to clearify that I'm not saying they shouldnt do the scene, or be put in jail, or that they are ped#### or something. But like you said it's just general discussion, I watched that, got kinda surprised and just wanted to discuss about the scene, because shouldnt be like "oh yeah its just a scene" imo, (obviously this is a 10 year old game and probably this discussion happened here and in some other places, so I'm arriving 10 years late to the party)
And like i said, i'm quite surprised they didnt get cancelled or any of those bullshits that happens nowadays, because social media did that to a lot of people for absolutely nothing (and this still isnt the case because like you say its legal) but is still "controversial" at least for Western minds, and the snowflakes nowadays will go crazy if they notice this scene.
Just wanted to discuss it like normal people, I'm not destroying a picture of Kiryu and talking to lawyers to make a demand against Sega lol. I still like the game and the series (actually this game it's #2 in my top right now, let's see how evolves) and actually it would still continue like that even if he'd take off his pants and some tentacles appeared (lol)
Oh well basically it was a very complicated love letter that i wrote to you
but sure, if you dont want to read it, ... thats cool. Looking forward to my therapy session today.
Btw this is pretty much THE controversial scene in Yakuza.
There was a whole thread about it on Era and i remember when big streamers like Cohh played it
there were a lot of people in the chat who were kind of shocked / disgusted.
And then this leads to this problem where a lot of the people think
'this is disgusting and because of that it shouldnt exist at all', 'what is this pedo s*it why didnt they remove it in the remaster'
which just doesnt make much sense if you think about that all of this is just fictional stuff in a story game
which has a official legal age rating
and it can only offend you if you let it offend you. You can get into a endless discussion with it.
I think theres just a problem in general where a lot of people dont understand
that a storyline, especially the ones with a serious tone or deeper themes,
exist because the creator wants to show you something specific. Its their vision, not yours.
If it happens that you like the characters, situations whatever, thats nice
but the story can still work or it can still have a purpose even if you dont like the characters, situations etc.
Maybe i'm looking at it in a too complex way or maybe people see it in a too easy way.
I just think this whole good / bad, black / white approach is very weird.
I mean just as example, do we really think that they created this Haruka scene
because they thought that a lot of people will like it? I dont think so, not even a little bit.
Its a shocking / surprising scene because its a shocking / surprising scene
so why should we think or talk about how this is a badly done rape scene with a minor or whatever?
It didnt happen and its not the point of the story. The uncomfortable feeling is the purpose.
