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Sony outright said that they are about single player games primarily. Jim Ryan said it about a year ago.

To me "exclusive" is a warped word in 2024. I think timed-exclusive fits the bill better. It's going to come to PC; even XBOX (a system Sony has tried to destroy for years and hasn't) is getting more FF games. I haven't been interested in one of Sony's games for a long time; so, owning a PC and XBOX while staying out of Japanese ecosystems (which are basically scams that millions somehow fall for) hasn't been hard for me.
 
Xbox has been destroyed, imo. Microsoft is putting their 'exclusives' on the PS5 now, for pete's sake. Either I'm hallucinating or I've seen Sea of Thieves for sale in the PS+ shop recently. I don't even understand the point of the Xbox as a console at this point. I have access to the games library on my PC, which is fine.
 
The Xbox 360 is one of my favorite consoles, and these days even I am struggling to see the point of owning an Xbox anymore. There was a glimmer of hope with the Xbox One X, which rectified the errors of the Xbox One, but now we're back to having Microsoft making stupid gaming decisions all over again. The Series S shouldn't exist, and neither should PS5 ports of MS exclusives (the latter of which would be the absolute death knell for Microsoft consoles).

Realistically, the scenario I was hoping wouldn't occur seems to be underway already, slowly but surely: Microsoft leaving the hardware console business and positioning its gaming division as exactly that, a third party publisher. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Anyway, Shenmue 3 was a PS4 exclusive....I'm guessing that if Shenmue even has a future at this point, it'll certainly include Playstation.
 
The Xbox 360 is one of my favorite consoles, and these days even I am struggling to see the point of owning an Xbox anymore. There was a glimmer of hope with the Xbox One X, which rectified the errors of the Xbox One, but now we're back to having Microsoft making stupid gaming decisions all over again. The Series S shouldn't exist, and neither should PS5 ports of MS exclusives (the latter of which would be the absolute death knell for Microsoft consoles).

Realistically, the scenario I was hoping wouldn't occur seems to be underway already, slowly but surely: Microsoft leaving the hardware console business and positioning its gaming division as exactly that, a third party publisher. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Anyway, Shenmue 3 was a PS4 exclusive....I'm guessing that if Shenmue even has a future at this point, it'll certainly include Playstation.


Microsoft put themselves into those decisions, basically.

The Series S forced developers to try and achieve parity on two systems of drastically different power levels.

This resulted in either frustrated developers skipping the Xbox platform or inadvertent "PlayStation exclusives" that ended up costing Xbox dearly at first(such as Baldurs Gate III).


Games cost an exorbitant amount of money to make these days(even AA isn't cheap by any means), but Xbox conditioned their entire audience that purchases were not necessary with Game Pass. In their mind, not even an Xbox is needed.

They encouraged a Netflix for Games model, but that doesn't lead to much profitability and developers, again, noticed.

Putting their games on competing platforms is the best way for them to get money and they need it.

"Microsoft doesn't need money."

They don't--but the suits at the Microsoft division(not Xbox) are saying "Hey, you spent 80+ billion dollars on these publishers and we aren't seeing much ROI".

Xbox games becoming more of a "third party" is 100% an upper Microsoft decision, not the Xbox division. Satya wants his money back.

I can guarantee you the upper echelon of Microsoft would want nothing more than a chance for Game Pass on PlayStation and Nintendo eco systems.

From the intel I've gathered, they have offered but weren't successful(yet).


It's been a series of missteps by Microsoft to get to this point. I've long said they never fully recovered from the 2013 E3 debacle with Xbox One vs PS4.

It's a wonder they have gotten this far.


But this doesn't come without cost--without Microsoft as a true competitive force, you'll see Sony return to their most arrogant form, last seen in the PS3 days.

One might say it's already begun--no real games being shown, a $700 PS5 Pro that almost no one considers worth it, and a recent price hike on all their controllers.
 
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But this doesn't come without cost--without Microsoft as a true competitive force, you'll see Sony return to their most arrogant form, last seen in the PS3 days.

One might say it's already begun--no real games being shown, a $700 PS5 Pro that almost no one considers worth it, and a recent price hike on all their controllers.

Exactly!
The PS5 Pro is going to cost around $800 if you want a disc drive, with Sony using "lack of competition" as an excuse for the absurd pricing.

Considering how I got the Xbox Series X on sale for $350 last year (ie a steal), I think I'm better off waiting 2 years for a PS6 :sweatsmile:
 
Microsoft put themselves into those decisions, basically.

The Series S forced developers to try and achieve parity on two systems of drastically different power levels.

This resulted in either frustrated developers skipping the Xbox platform or inadvertent "PlayStation exclusives" that ended up costing Xbox dearly at first(such as Baldurs Gate III).


Games cost an exorbitant amount of money to make these days(even AA isn't cheap by any means), but Xbox conditioned their entire audience that purchases were not necessary with Game Pass. In their mind, not even an Xbox is needed.

They encouraged a Netflix for Games model, but that doesn't lead to much profitability and developers, again, noticed.

Putting their games on competing platforms is the best way for them to get money and they need it.

"Microsoft doesn't need money."

They don't--but the suits at the Microsoft division(not Xbox) are saying "Hey, you spent 80+ billion dollars on these publishers and we aren't seeing much ROI".

Xbox games becoming more of a "third party" is 100% an upper Microsoft decision, not the Xbox division. Satya wants his money back.

I can guarantee you the upper echelon of Microsoft would want nothing more than a chance for Game Pass on PlayStation and Nintendo eco systems.

From the intel I've gathered, they have offered but weren't successful(yet).


It's been a series of missteps by Microsoft to get to this point. I've long said they never fully recovered from the 2013 E3 debacle with Xbox One vs PS4.

It's a wonder they have gotten this far.


But this doesn't come without cost--without Microsoft as a true competitive force, you'll see Sony return to their most arrogant form, last seen in the PS3 days.

One might say it's already begun--no real games being shown, a $700 PS5 Pro that almost no one considers worth it, and a recent price hike on all their controllers.

Microsoft is definitely a competitive force. They've thrown Sony into dangerous territory because this Game Pass thing is unequivocally the future, and they've acquired ABK.
 
And they're porting their games to the PS5... seems a bit self-defeating if that's their goal?
 
Sorta wished Sega went 3rd party and stayed 1st party simultaneous like MS does now. Would've been awesome to have a choice for Dreamcast versions of their 2002-2004 catalogue :(

MIght've worked if they still weren't actually producing many Dreamcasts--if at all.
 
Microsoft is definitely a competitive force. They've thrown Sony into dangerous territory because this Game Pass thing is unequivocally the future, and they've acquired ABK.


They've *thrown* Sony into dangerous territory? Where?

Can you provide sources to back up this claim?

Because it isn't in their Game Pass growth:



Nor is it in their console sales:




You mention the acquisition of ABK, of which every single game thus far(including CoD) has been multi-platform. But what did that acquisition REALLY cost?

Microsoft Is Laying Off 650 More Xbox Employees, Again Due To The Activision-Blizzard Deal

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulta...es-again-due-to-the-activision-blizzard-deal/




I can provide quite a bit more if you want.


The fact is that subscriptions have stalled, hardware has ALSO stalled and the "acquisition" of ABK resulted in almost all games still remaining on all platforms, because they HAVE to because they need the revenue, games are expensive.

CoD was also mandated by the courts per agreements for at least 10 years.

That doesn't mean Sony is innocent. They shot down Concord and also have done some layoffs of their own.

But your argument needs some more meat, sir.
 
They've *thrown* Sony into dangerous territory? Where?

Can you provide sources to back up this claim?

Because it isn't in their Game Pass growth:



Nor is it in their console sales:




You mention the acquisition of ABK, of which every single game thus far(including CoD) has been multi-platform. But what did that acquisition REALLY cost?

Microsoft Is Laying Off 650 More Xbox Employees, Again Due To The Activision-Blizzard Deal

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulta...es-again-due-to-the-activision-blizzard-deal/




I can provide quite a bit more if you want.


The fact is that subscriptions have stalled, hardware has ALSO stalled and the "acquisition" of ABK resulted in almost all games still remaining on all platforms, because they HAVE to because they need the revenue, games are expensive.

CoD was also mandated by the courts per agreements for at least 10 years.

That doesn't mean Sony is innocent. They shot down Concord and also have done some layoffs of their own.

But your argument needs some more meat, sir.
10 years from now they'll be asking "Where were you when Valascaziel dropped this absolute banger of a rebuttal?"
 
They've *thrown* Sony into dangerous territory? Where?

Can you provide sources to back up this claim?

Because it isn't in their Game Pass growth:



Nor is it in their console sales:




You mention the acquisition of ABK, of which every single game thus far(including CoD) has been multi-platform. But what did that acquisition REALLY cost?

Microsoft Is Laying Off 650 More Xbox Employees, Again Due To The Activision-Blizzard Deal

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulta...es-again-due-to-the-activision-blizzard-deal/




I can provide quite a bit more if you want.


The fact is that subscriptions have stalled, hardware has ALSO stalled and the "acquisition" of ABK resulted in almost all games still remaining on all platforms, because they HAVE to because they need the revenue, games are expensive.

CoD was also mandated by the courts per agreements for at least 10 years.

That doesn't mean Sony is innocent. They shot down Concord and also have done some layoffs of their own.

But your argument needs some more meat, sir.

Trust me; I beat that horse every single day on Twitter. Do I really need to say it again and again?

Jim Ryan; the most cutthroat and vicious liar that we've ever been allowed to be aware of at Sony said himself that the ABK deal would destroy PlayStation, and be detrimental to its business. All of your links are media bits (IGN FORBES LOL) that are in bed with Sony as well.

Are you going to include Metacritic next? Because Sony is also sleeping with them and if you asked me for proof on that it would just showcase how out of the loop you are pertaining to system wars.

I'll start firing rounds when you poise a challenge. Until then why waste ammunition? You sound like every other Pony on X. "Let's bring up layoffs even though Sony does it too and every other big conglomerate." I don't understand why you brought it up to begin with just to recant your already bloated statements.

Microsoft is a great deal, and I don't mind being in third. Game Pass will eventually open to a wider audience; especially when the big one hits. Before you know it, people will say why am I buying third party on PlayStation when I can get most of it on Day 1 Game Pass Ultimate for a fraction of the cost?

Why am I paying for cloud saves? Why am I paying for a service that doesn't allow local installs? PlayStation is a trite ecosystem, and I'm glad I'm not a part of it. PC destroys it in every sense of the word and XBOX is a much better deal for current gen.
 
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"Sony Pony" Yeah, we're not dealing with an adult here.

Again, brand allegiance weirdness aside, how's a company that's porting games to their main competitor's console "winning" anything? I think it's cool. More games for everyone. Just curious what's supposed to excite me about Microsoft's console, if I can play their games on my PC or PS5 (or even the Switch, it seems)?
 
Trust me; I beat that horse every single day on Twitter. Do I really need to say it again and again?

Jim Ryan; the most cutthroat and vicious liar that we've ever been allowed to be aware of at Sony said himself that the ABK deal would destroy PlayStation, and be detrimental to its business. FORBES LOL) that are in bed with Sony as well.

Are you going to include Metacritic next? Because Sony is also sleeping with them and if you asked me for proof on that it would just showcase how out of the loop you are pertaining to system wars.

I'll start firing rounds when you poise a challenge. Until then why waste ammunition? You sound like every other Pony on X. "Let's bring up layoffs even though Sony does it too and every other big conglomerate." I don't understand why you brought it up to begin with just to recant your already bloated statements.

Microsoft is a great deal, and I don't mind being in third. Game Pass will eventually open to a wider audience; especially when the big one hits. Before you know it, people will say why am I buying third party on PlayStation when I can get most of it on Day 1 Game Pass Ultimate for a fraction of the cost?

Why am I paying for cloud saves? Why am I paying for a service that doesn't allow local installs? PlayStation is a trite ecosystem, and I'm glad I'm not a part of it. PC destroys it in every sense of the word and XBOX is a much better deal for current gen.


First of all, we don't resort to name-calling on this forum. Secondly, nothing about my post came with such aggressive emotion. It was simply to counter a statement you made that I felt wasn't accurate.

"When I challenge you?"

What kind of haughty response is that? This isn't high school, we're all adults here. You were *encouraged* already to provide your counter arguments. Instead, all I see is a lot of vitriol and heated opinions that Ive not hitherto seen on this forum.

If you're going to fire off names and ALSO summarily dismiss any and all news articles(which you did)

All of your links are media bits

as the equivalent of "fake news", dismissing someone as reputable as even Jason Scherier, then there isn't a discussion to be had here.

I'm going to move on past this as it won't result in anything substantial.
 
First of all, we don't resort to name-calling on this forum. Secondly, nothing about my post came with such aggressive emotion. It was simply to counter a statement you made that I felt wasn't accurate.

"When I challenge you?"

What kind of haughty response is that? This isn't high school, we're all adults here. You were *encouraged* already to provide your counter arguments. Instead, all I see is a lot of vitriol and heated opinions that Ive not hitherto seen on this forum.

If you're going to fire off names and ALSO summarily dismiss any and all news articles(which you did)



as the equivalent of "fake news", dismissing someone as reputable as even Jason Scherier, then there isn't a discussion to be had here.

I'm going to move on past this as it won't result in anything substantial.

Par for this course with this poster. I would encourage you to save your breath as having a factual, rationale discussion, particularly when certain companies are involved is nigh impossible.
 
None of that console wars bollocks here please.
 
First of all, we don't resort to name-calling on this forum. Secondly, nothing about my post came with such aggressive emotion. It was simply to counter a statement you made that I felt wasn't accurate.

"When I challenge you?"

What kind of haughty response is that? This isn't high school, we're all adults here. You were *encouraged* already to provide your counter arguments. Instead, all I see is a lot of vitriol and heated opinions that Ive not hitherto seen on this forum.

If you're going to fire off names and ALSO summarily dismiss any and all news articles(which you did)



as the equivalent of "fake news", dismissing someone as reputable as even Jason Scherier, then there isn't a discussion to be had here.

I'm going to move on past this as it won't result in anything substantial.

Who did I name call? Serious though; you weren't a challenge. You posted some double standard stories and then proceeded to realize your own mistake at the end.

Jason Scherier is one of the worst and he's known for blocking people that even politely disagree with him. Some "journalist" he is.

Par for this course with this poster. I would encourage you to save your breath as having a factual, rationale discussion, particularly when certain companies are involved is nigh impossible.

Show me where I was ever irrational. You don't know me. You and I had a disagreement, and since then I've done the best I can to stay away from you. I'd appreciate it if you stayed out of my conversations and mind your own business. It was a conversation about textures. If you still feel the reason to bring that up, I would hate to imagine how you are when something actually big in your life happens.
 
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