New Yu Suzuki Game: Vrsus

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As some of you already know, Yu Suzuki announced a new game at Tokyo Game Show Yesterday, called "Vrsus". o_O

http://www.phantomriverstone.com/2018/09/yu-suzuki-to-produce-new-vr-battle-game.html

Another bad PR move from Yu, it seems. I hope the media won't tear him to shreds again for "betraying Shenmue 3 backers" and working on other games simultaneously, while S3 is not even finished. But frankly, I think Yu is just asking for it.

From my personal point of view as a Shenmue fan, the thought of Yu Suzuki dedicating a part of his capacity, no matter how low of a percentage it might be, to a project other than Shenmue 3 at this moment in time, less than a year away from S3's supposed release date, leaves a very sour taste.

At the very least the timing of this announcement - and I'm saying this in Corey Marshall's voice - is waaaaaaaayyyy uncool.

-.-
 
I think this is a pretty alarmist thread with some very knee-jerk reasoning, and here's why:


Yu was approached to participate in the project, and has taken up the role of General Producer for its development. He will be working on the game together with virtual reality company JPPVR Corporation, a company that sell VR rigs for arcades, and their software development subsidiary company VRes.

Seems pretty open and shut.

Shenmue 3 is the priority, Yu is only a general producer instead of director/producer/designer like with Shenmue, and it's a very early and rudimentary prototype. Yu nor Ys Net won't exist in stasis until the next shot at another Shenmue game after 3 releases, and as the head of the studio it is his responsibility to ensure they have other projects in the pipeline to keep himself, and however many devs on-staff employed post-August 2019. This is how the industry usually works, and especially so if you're an independent studio.

It's not a PR disaster in waiting... unless you make it one. Beat the outrage war drum if you want, but you're only giving the clickbait media ammunition to shoot more holes into Shenmue 3 for no good reason.

Frankly this thread feels endemic of the pervasive negativity that's overtaken this community, and part of why I decided to leave it. Unfortunately I only weaned myself off it enough not to participate, even if I still did browse community resources, but this wasn't something I could stay silent about. For all the good this community has to offer and all the things it has achieved, shit like this is what makes me think it doesn't deserve to see Shenmue revived when some will so readily turn on the series creator without a second thought.
 
While Shenmue was in development on the Saturn. Fighter's Megamix, Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Fighter 3, Fighting Vipers and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting got released during that time. Little did we know he had all the way up to the end of 2 completed on the Saturn while dropping game after game throughout that time period.

This is much ado about nothing. If anything for me personally it makes me want to try out Psy Phi even more. Yu Suzuki is an industry veteran and pioneer so to put it very bluntly, I think it's best as a community to say STFU and just let the man work. He knows what he's doing.

Can't wait for 8/29 and I'm glad more Yu Suzuki games are coming in the near future.
 
What a lame thread.

Remember a while ago when Yu said that he was sleeping in his office some nights because he was so dedicated to making Shenmue III the best it could possibly be? You really think a small role on a side project is such a betrayal when this man is literally pushing himself to the very limit so he can deliver us a game that many thought would never even see the light of day?

It's honestly disgusting to claim that he's 'asking for it' and act like he's done you any wrong when Suzuki has shown nothing but pure dedication and care towards Shenmue III - a game that has no right to exist in the first place.

The sense of greed and entitlement being expressed here is abhorrent.
 
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Yu Suzuki is a guy bursting with ideas. There's one game concept he showed us in Monaco/Eze that I thought sounded really neat that I hope he gets to make one day, sounded like a passion project of his. It's also pretty amazing how far along some of the games he made in the "wilderness years" were, some were playable games.
 
Unfortunately what Spaghetti said is very true, and a lot more of a tempered response than I had originally typed. Negativity and contempt to the OP attitude will get me nowhere, so I will take a deep breath and try to be more friendly and coherent in my response. Emphasis on the try there, I can't make any promises.

First off, I am not going to pretend to understand the life that someone like Yu Suzuki lives, as he is many things I am not; more experienced in life, a games creator, business man, a husband, a father.... But I have spoken with him on all of these issues at some levels, as well as having a relatively normal education, some life experience and common sense, so I feel like I can at least have a stab at some relativity here.

As a games creator.... No..... As an artist, whose livelihood is based on that, it's his life. It's what he wakes up for in the morning, it's what he breathes, it's what he lives for. To even understand what that's like, look inside your own life. What you do when you wake up, what job you go to when you do, and how much of your 7 day week that takes up. If you are like me and have a bog standard 9-5 job then that's cool, but I would bet it's boring. It's mundane. It pays the bills, and most of all, it's routine.
A creator, or an artist such as Yu Suzuki does not share a single attribute with that type of world. His mind is always working, even when he sleeps. What programming language best to use, what character designs are, storyline structures, character development, backstories, environment geometry, cutscene direction, in game mechanics, musical themes, title concepts and designs.... I could go on and on. When our normal life jobs end at 5pm, his doesn't stop. He will sit with a pen in hand until 2am until he passes out.
That is just the creative process!! Also understand that since Sega, he is his own boss now. Responsible to himself, where every mistake and error costs him both personally and professionally. There's no faceless company to hide behind and take the heat. He not only has to design and build new ideas from scratch, but he has to sell it too. He has to sell his concepts, his ideas, his designs, and even has to sell his company and himself.

Why does he do this? Many reasons you could throw down, but like I said this is his life. A man's gotta eat. Got to put a roof over his and his wife's head. Take care of his young daughter, and make sure she is ok in her own life. Not only is it his life, but it's his job and what brings home bacon. Whilst I am sure you don't own any Ferrari's or a big fancy house, could you imagine being quietly let go from the huge company you helped build, and watch your bank balance shrink to the point where you had to sell off your prized possessions. Watch your entire life downsize, and have your worries chance from satisfying the gaming masses out there, to worrying about your own loved one. I sincerely hope not, and that no one reading this is ever in that position.

Any comment I have read today criticizing his involvement in a new game honestly disgusts me, and demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt the sheer short sightedness, stupidity and downright arrogance of some so called "Shenmue" fans. People literally want him to work on Shenmue and that's it. Like leeches feeding off of him, and once Shenmue 3 is released, no doubts the demand for Shenmue 4 cry out. No regard for his age, lifestyle, stress levels, family sacrifices.... It's the same with George RR Martin, and comments I have read where people wouldn't give a fuck if he died tomorrow, or how his loved ones would feel in regards to their tragic loss.... They would just be concerned about how much he had completed for the next Game of Thrones book, and be pissed off it wasn't finished.

We truly are living in the era of self want, greed and lack of humility. Wait... Greed?? But hang on Peter, this was a Kickstarter! It was OUR money we gave! Yep, you are absolutely right. But, if I thought for one second that this said Kickstarter would represent 70,000 whips cracking off of Yu Suzuki's back day in and day out for the last 3 and a half years then I would gladly.... GLADLY give every cent back in a heartbeat, and live the rest of my life without ever playing a third instalment of the Shenmue franchise. That alone is shameful in itself, but criticizing him for doing his job... At his age... doing what he was born to do, doing what he lives for, where he has come from, gone through, and trying to get back to???

I respectfully say get the absolute fuck out of my sight and go look in the mirror to see if you would place as much criticism on yourself for doing the exact same thing. The age of the keyboard warrior, where the idiotic ramblings now are easily typed into a post for the world to see, rather than just kept inside people's minds like they were before the days of social media and the internet. Typing up a hissy fit at someone doing their job. I have to wonder if that same logic that goes into a futile comment like the ones I've read today, would apply to that person when they are lifting a tin of Asdas own brand beans down off the shelf instead of Heinz, because they can't afford it with being off sick for 10 years. Or does that logic kick in when they have to call the mortgage broker in to sell the house because they were made redundant last month. Type up all the negativity you want on a message forum, or social media, but the notion of a human being being discussed, with a family and loved ones went flying out the window, further and further each day the internet continues to exist. Hopefully one day, people begin to remember humanity again.
 
I'm honestly quite happy if he also puts his mind on side projects, which usually turn out being very good.
Nothing really gives me an impression that he'd be willing to actually put Shenmue aside anyway.
He cares too much about the saga, and the support (financial and not) he received from the fans likely increased his sense of responsability about the whole thing.
 
Hahaha, this is fun! :p Kicked a litte hornet's nest here.

I understand the concept of Kickstarter. Thanks for letting me know, guys.;)

At no point in my post did I say Yu was betraying the fans. I was talking about the possibility of media making up such shit. Read again. :geek: Luckily, chances are Vrsus being an Arcade.game, it will go largely unnoticed because Arcades are not a thing anymore outside Japan.

I do hope Yu has run this by Deep Silver before joining this new project.

Yeah, it's Yu Suzuki, but I don't have to blindly worship every single thing he does? I tihink the timing is wrong. S3 is on the finishing line. This is not the time to do other stuff, imho.

That's all I'm saying and I'm not gonna change my mind.
 
Yu is only a general producer instead of director/producer/designer like with Shenmue, and it's a very early and rudimentary prototype.
Indeed. Producers aren't normally involved with details of the daily process. It's more about giving general feedback and communicating a vision. Then it's up to others to realize it. In the music industry there's a producer for example who walks barefoot into the studio maybe once a week. He then lies on the couch, listens, tells the band and technical staff what could be changed and leaves :p

As an artist ... it's what he breathes, it's what he lives for. To even understand what that's like, look inside your own life. ... If you are like me and have a bog standard 9-5 job then that's cool, but I would bet it's boring. It's mundane. It pays the bills, and most of all, it's routine. A creator, or an artist such as Yu Suzuki does not share a single attribute with that type of world. His mind is always working, even when he sleeps.
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When our normal life jobs end at 5pm, his doesn't stop. He will sit with a pen in hand until 2am until he passes out.
I somwhat experienced the different sides. I have had 9-5 work, did some science related stuff and have done work as sound engineer. So I can relate, though not at Yu's level of course. The regular job is mostly routine but more stable. The science stuff is less routine but you might work more just to find a solution out of curiosity/passion/obsession. Sound engineering is similar but with added personal responsibility (as owner). Even for clients, you might test some ideas "after hours" if improvements seem possible but the budget doesn't fully allow it (depending on the source material). That way the result is at least closer to what you envisioned. The disadvantage of being more involved (last two examples) is that you're thinking of different approaches or looking up information off the clock. It's easier to draw that line with a regular job. It's also normal that Yu is looking at new projects while working on one now. That way you can keep the business running.

Whilst I am sure you don't own any Ferrari's or a big fancy house, could you imagine being quietly let go from the huge company you helped build, and watch your bank balance shrink to the point where you had to sell off your prized possessions. Watch your entire life downsize, and have your worries chance from satisfying the gaming masses out there, to worrying about your own loved one.
I mentioned this before. When I met Yu at Gamescom I told him that it was great that he could continue the Shenmue series for his sake too. It sucks if external factors prevent you from working on a project that you were passionate about. Sure, he has a better life than most (all?) of us ever will but the change must have been tough.

@Peter Your remarks about social media made me think of this :
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...media_is_ripping_our_social_fabric_apart.html
Others in the technology industry said similar things. For example Jaron Lanier (VR pioneer), Tim Berners-Lee (creator world wide web), Bill Gates, ... talked about how it reprograms the brain, how casino experts help out to maximize addiction, how it creates mob mentality, leads to more depression and suicide according to studies (even Facebook's own), etc.
 
As I said before:

Creative work on Shenmue III is likely drawing to a close now. Most of the remaining work will be technical, so less of Yu's attention is required.

You wouldn't moan at the brass players for resting their tubas during the strings-only fourth movement.
 
As I said before:

Creative work on Shenmue III is likely drawing to a close now. Most of the remaining work will be technical, so less of Yu's attention is required.
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i dont know but maybe Yu is not in a rush to complete the shenmue story, after all, its his baby..you would think, if you were desperate to complete a project, you would find a way to get it done way before this kickstarter stuff.

of course i wish him the best...and now im going to sound like a d*ck.. but..i really hope Yu has detailed instructions which he can pass on, just in case hes unable to finish the shenmue story himself.
 
What you do when you wake up, what job you go to when you do, and how much of your 7 day week that takes up. If you are like me and have a bog standard 9-5 job then that's cool, but I would bet it's boring. It's mundane. It pays the bills, and most of all, it's routine.

Whilst I am sure you don't own any Ferrari's or a big fancy house, could you imagine being quietly let go from the huge company you helped build, and watch your bank balance shrink to the point where you had to sell off your prized possessions. Watch your entire life downsize,

My job is kind of nine to five but at times, it also Isn't. It's largely project-based and my company needs to be faster or better than our competition to survive which means putting in a lot of extra hours at times. <TRIGGER WARNING> Also, it's crucial to finish projects before you start new projects. ;) That side project thing doesn't fly in my line of work, or the people with the money (in our case the clients) will kick your ass. </TRIGGER WARNING>

I kind of can relate. Compared to three years ago, I kind of "downgraded" the place I live in and my car. Three years ago, I used to live in my own big house and drive a sports coupe, now I live in a small apartment and drive a pretty boring station wagon. The house is nothing fancy, my grandparents built it with their own hands after World War 2 but it's good nonetheless. The car isn't anywhere near a Ferrari but it was a gorgeous little machine which used to bring a lot of joy to my life, still.

So I didn't downsize my life for financial reasons. No payments on either the house or the car but the thing is the house is in an area of the country where there are not many good job opportunities at the moment. So my girlfriend and me both took up much better job offers in a different city. We then moved to our current place and now people from our family live in the house. About the car... Yeah, I turned 30 recently and we are planning on getting married and starting our own family and stuff, so I figured, cutting down in the car department would be an easy way to enable us to put more money aside for our future. The new car uses a lot less gas and costs a lot less insurance and tax. Also, maintenance costs are much lower than a sports car's so there you go. Do I miss the smile it used to put on my face every morning when I fired up the coupe's big bubbling engine on my way to work? Helll yeah, I do. But there's a time for everytthing in life and I figured that while driving a sports car was kind of cool in my 20s, now is no longer the right time for that. And I'm happier than ever before right now.

So, what's the point in me writing all of this? The kind of downgrading your life style due to circumstances like your job, family and so on is a thing I have gone trough as well as most people I know. Yu Suzuki having to go through this is nothing special. Obviously he downgraded from a much higher standard than most people will ever achieve but it's not like his wife and kid were starving. Also, him downgrading doesn't necessarily mean he's unhappy with his life. Life is not just about material things.

Now let me re-iterate my initial point: As long as S3 doesn't get delayed again, I'm ok with Yu doing some side projects. If it does get delayed again, Yu won't give a fuck about my opinion and that's ok. Also, you are very welcome to keep attacking me on a personal level and tell me to "look in the mirror" :D and whatnot or go on about the evils of parts of the Shenmue community or social media as a whole but that won't change one fact: Yu Suzuki is not the boss of Shenmue 3. Deep Silver is. Deep Silver are the people with the money, not Yu Suzuki, not Peter from Shenmue Dojo or any other Kickstarter backer. They may be giving him full creative freedom on the project (are they?), but ultimately, they are the ones calling the shots on S3. Again, you're welcome to call that unfair and stupid and whatever, but it is what it is.

Let me emphasize this again, Deep Silver are the people with the money and while Yu Suzuki may not have attended the event, Deep Silver's CEO was at Gamescom last month and set a deadline on him. That deadline is August 27, 2019. If Yu manages to deliver a great game by that deadline, everything's cool. If he misses that deadline, and with it perhaps even the final days of the PS4 generation, Deep Silver will take into account the fact that he has been working on other projects while working on S3.

Comapnies don't care about people's "life as an artist" as you call it. That's a shitty reality but it is a reality. If Yu gives Deep Silver the impression of being a business partner who cannot be relied on to execute projects in timely fashion, it may well decrease their interest in future collaborations with him (e.g. Shenmue 4) and Deep Silver won't be the only publisher in the industry to take notice.

As I've said before, there's a time for everything in life. In my opinion, now is not the time for Yu to work on anything else than S3. I'm fully aware that Yu is in no way obliged to give a flying fuck about my opinion. Deep Silver's opinion is an entirely different matter though.

Let's just hope for Yu to deliver a great S3 no laterthan August 27, 2019. I don't wanna find out about Deep Silver's reaction if he misses that deadline. For now, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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This thread is getting weird.

Anyway, I think the prototype looks pretty cool but VR has never been a point of interest for me so I don't think I'll be following it too closely. Will be interesting to see if this does take off though.
 
I think it's great. My take is he hasn't been too involved yet and they brought him in recently to actually make a game around the concept. That seems to be about what he said.

Yu Suzuki isn't exactly young anymore and he's looking at making another two or three Shenmue games. Let him have some fun.
 
The fact that he wants to work on other games also shows that he intends to stay in the industry which is positive. I wondered before if he would maybe regret coming back once he started going through development.

Also, it's crucial to finish projects before you start new projects. ;) That side project thing doesn't fly in my line of work, or the people with the money (in our case the clients) will kick your ass.
This might depend on the industry. Working with audio, being able to take on several projects is preferable. The ability to recall hardware and project settings quickly is important and something that customers expect. Those who do this fulltime switch between projects during the week while waiting for customer feedback. Other gaming companies also work on several projects at the same time. During development they eventually start moving people from one project to the new one.

The kind of downgrading your life style due to circumstances like your job, family and so on is a thing I have gone trough as well as most people I know. Yu Suzuki having to go through this is nothing special.
True, though there's a slight difference. You were able to make a choice. In Yu's case, he was almost ostracized from the industry despite his earlier status.

Now let me re-iterate my initial point: As long as S3 doesn't get delayed again, I'm ok with Yu doing some side projects.
I agree there. Another delay wouldn't look too good. But being a general producer doesn't need to be very time intensive.

...but that won't change one fact: Yu Suzuki is not the boss of Shenmue 3. Deep Silver is. Deep Silver are the people with the money, not Yu Suzuki, not Peter from Shenmue Dojo or any other Kickstarter backer.
Though he's still the boss of YS Net while Deep Silver publish. He must have some influence I guess. And I would hope that those Kickstarter millions also count a little bit?

Comapnies don't care about people's "life as an artist" as you call it. That's a shitty reality but it is a reality.
True, they don't need to care about that. The better companies try to find a balance though since it can lead to better results from the creator. But I think that Peter's point was rather from Yu's perspective as a creator with the added responsibility as a business owner nowadays. He needs to think of future projects so there is work for his team after Shenmue 3 is finished.
 
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My job is kind of nine to five but at times, it also Isn't. It's largely project-based and my company needs to be faster or better than our competition to survive which means putting in a lot of extra hours at times. <TRIGGER WARNING> Also, it's crucial to finish projects before you start new projects. ;) That side project thing doesn't fly in my line of work, or the people with the money (in our case the clients) will kick your ass. </TRIGGER WARNING>

I kind of can relate. Compared to three years ago, I kind of "downgraded" the place I live in and my car. Three years ago, I used to live in my own big house and drive a sports coupe, now I live in a small apartment and drive a pretty boring station wagon. The house is nothing fancy, my grandparents built it with their own hands after World War 2 but it's good nonetheless. The car isn't anywhere near a Ferrari but it was a gorgeous little machine which used to bring a lot of joy to my life, still.

So I didn't downsize my life for financial reasons. No payments on either the house or the car but the thing is the house is in an area of the country where there are not many good job opportunities at the moment. So my girlfriend and me both took up much better job offers in a different city. We then moved to our current place and now people from our family live in the house. About the car... Yeah, I turned 30 recently and we are planning on getting married and starting our own family and stuff, so I figured, cutting down in the car department would be an easy way to enable us to put more money aside for our future. The new car uses a lot less gas and costs a lot less insurance and tax. Also, maintenance costs are much lower than a sports car's so there you go. Do I miss the smile it used to put on my face every morning when I fired up the coupe's big bubbling engine on my way to work? Helll yeah, I do. But there's a time for everytthing in life and I figured that while driving a sports car was kind of cool in my 20s, now is no longer the right time for that. And I'm happier than ever before right now.

So, what's the point in me writing all of this? The kind of downgrading your life style due to circumstances like your job, family and so on is a thing I have gone trough as well as most people I know. Yu Suzuki having to go through this is nothing special. Obviously he downgraded from a much higher standard than most people will ever achieve but it's not like his wife and kid were starving. Also, him downgrading doesn't necessarily mean he's unhappy with his life. Life is not just about material things.

Now let me re-iterate my initial point: As long as S3 doesn't get delayed again, I'm ok with Yu doing some side projects. If it does get delayed again, Yu won't give a fuck about my opinion and that's ok. Also, you are very welcome to keep attacking me on a personal level and tell me to "look in the mirror" :D and whatnot or go on about the evils of parts of the Shenmue community or social media as a whole but that won't change one fact: Yu Suzuki is not the boss of Shenmue 3. Deep Silver is. Deep Silver are the people with the money, not Yu Suzuki, not Peter from Shenmue Dojo or any other Kickstarter backer. They may be giving him full creative freedom on the project (are they?), but ultimately, they are the ones calling the shots on S3. Again, you're welcome to call that unfair and stupid and whatever, but it is what it is.

Let me emphasize this again, Deep Silver are the people with the money and while Yu Suzuki may not have attended the event, Deep Silver's CEO was at Gamescom last month and set a deadline on him. That deadline is August 27, 2019. If Yu manages to deliver a great game by that deadline, everything's cool. If he misses that deadline, and with it perhaps even the final days of the PS4 generation, Deep Silver will take into account the fact that he has been working on other projects while working on S3.

Comapnies don't care about people's "life as an artist" as you call it. That's a shitty reality but it is a reality. If Yu gives Deep Silver the impression of being a business partner who cannot be relied on to execute projects in timely fashion, it may well decrease their interest in future collaborations with him (e.g. Shenmue 4) and Deep Silver won't be the only publisher in the industry to take notice.

As I've said before, there's a time for everything in life. In my opinion, now is not the time for Yu to work on anything else than S3. I'm fully aware that Yu is in no way obliged to give a flying fuck about my opinion. Deep Silver's opinion is an entirely different matter though.

Let's just hope for Yu to deliver a great S3 no laterthan August 27, 2019. I don't wanna find out about Deep Silver's reaction if he misses that deadline. For now, we'll just have to wait and see.

Yu doesn't care about your opinion. Believe me. People like Yu Suzuki don't spend time reading what people like you and me say about them on the internet. They spend their time trying to make their dreams a reality. You don't end up making a game as huge and ambitious as Shenmue if you spend your time worrying about what other people think of you.

I think it's positive he feels he can handle focusing on another game. Who even knows how much 'focus' he's really giving it? It's looking very basic and not much deeper than your average VR mini game at this point. I think he'll lend his game design background to the group in order to get the concept off the ground. Will that require hours of his time? Who knows...
 
Yu doesn't care about your opinion.

As I've stated in my last post above. And why would he? I don't think he even cares for any of the 10k $ super backer's opinions. And again, why on earth would he? I wouldn't if I was in his shoes.

. They spend their time trying to make their dreams a reality.

One of the things Yu Suzuki and and I have in common when it comes to our respective jobs. And I'm damn grateful and happy that I'm given the opportunity to work in my dream job which gives me the ability to work on making my dreams a reality. Since the S3 Kickstarter, Yu has also striked me as a supper happy and grateful guy who loves what he's doing.

I think it's positive he feels he can handle focusing on another game. Who even knows how much 'focus' he's really giving it? It's looking very basic and not much deeper than your average VR mini game at this point. I think he'll lend his game design background to the group in order to get the concept off the ground. Will that require hours of his time? Who knows...

That's hard to say at the moment. How much of Yu's time does this new project require? If S3 gets delayed again, we will know that the answer probably was "too much". If S3 gets released on time, we will perhaps never know how much time he has actually been spending on the new game.

The fact that he wants to work on other games also shows that he intends to stay in the industry which is positive.

I hope he has come back to stay.

True, though there's a slight difference. You were able to make a choice. In Yu's case, he was almost ostracized from the industry despite his earlier status.

It was kind of the same choice Yu had to make, albeit on a much, much smaller scale. Work a dead-end job where you are or give up on your life standard and move to be able to do the job you want to do.

Yu could have continued doing the dead-end jobs Sega were giving him without ever having to worry about paying his bills. They wouldn't have kicked him out entirely, in fact Yu still is a (freelance) Sega employee in some "consultant" or "advisor" role, if I'm not mistaken. I think he said something like that in an interview two or three years ago.

He chose the uncomfortable path and started his own company to be able to do the job he wants to do which deserves admiration.

I agree there. Another delay wouldn't look too good. But being a general producer doesn't need to be very time intensive.

Not only would it not look good but there's always still the possibility of Deep Silver pulling the plug on the entire project. Luckily, I think that is very unlikely to happen so close to release. But at the very least, missing the August 2019 deadline which Deep Silver gave Yu would be a severe setback to his relationship with Deep Silver which is something none of us would wishi for.

Though he's still the boss of YS Net while Deep Silver publish. He must have some influence I guess. And I would hope that those Kickstarter millions also count a little bit?

I hope the Kickstarter money does. Not sure about it though. It depends on two factors: a) how much of the Kickstarter money was left when Yu signed the deal with Deep Silver and b) how much of it has he got left now?

. He needs to think of future projects so there is work for his team after Shenmue 3 is finished.

Wouldn't that naturally be S4? He stated on numerous occasions that he has S4 planned and wants to make it. Like here in February of this year for instance:

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/02/28/yu-suzuki-says-shenmue-4-is-planned/

 
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