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This was published September 13, 2020. Was nice to read this and i started to imagine and making theories about what will happen, i think is nice to have a thread specifically for theories and things like that.
https://gamerant.com/questions-shenmue-fans-need-answering/
First i will talk about the questions in the link, my opinion about what will happen.
10. What happened to Baisha?
In one kickstarter video Yu Suzuki said... "Baisha will show off what Shenmue III is all about." We saw in the development updates that the team began working on Baisha quite early on in the production.
So what happened with Baisha? why Baisha was cut out of the game? i think there are 2 options for this. Maybe this was a budget problem or Yu Suzuki decided that he will put Baisha in Shenmue IV, maybe other thing happened, i really don't know.
Like i said in another thread i feel that Shenmue III didn't turn out exactly the way Yu Suzuki really wanted so i feel that the decision to cut out Baisha of Shenmue III was not a easy decision for him. We will see Baisha in Shenmue IV or we will never see this place in game format? only time will tell.
9. Who Wrote The Mysterious Poetry Scroll?
In my opinion The Mysterious Poetry Scroll will be important, Ryo will probably learn an important move with the master that wrote the scroll, someone correct me if i'm wrong but i don't remember the scroll in the inventory of Shenmue II and Shenmue III, i really need to play this games again, but even if is not in the inventory it is possible that the scroll will be important, to me the scroll is really important.
8. What Happened to Ziming Hong?
In my opinion Ziming joined the Chi You Men and achieved his revenge but with a price, after he completed his revenge i think he had to stay in the organization for some reason, Ziming continued to be a good person or it is too late for him?
Xiuying said to Ryo... "You still don't understand, martial arts are used to protect people's life, if you use your fists otherwise you will walk on the path of evil, too..."
I think will be nice to show that maybe is too late for him, this way it can show for Ryo the damage revenge can do with people, that now Ziming is on the path of evil and Ryo will not follow the same path.
In the manga side stories Ziming said... "Become Strong, Xiuying! Stronger than me." So we will see a fight to the death between Ziming and Xiuying? Xiuying is strong but she really can kill Ziming? i'm saying this because she loves her brother so it will be really hard if she have to do this, it will be a hard decision for her, this part can be so intense and emotional.
Another fight that would be nice to see is Ryo VS Ziming, this way maybe Ryo will even be tempted to go to the path of evil, maybe Ziming will win and say to Ryo... "You are pathethic, you are weak, this way you will never defeat Longsun Zhao, only in the dark side you can get the real power to achieve your revenge, just like i did."
I don't know, something like this, i think it would be cool to show that Ziming have similar things with Ryo, like Ziming is a Ryo that went in the wrong path and that Ryo will not follow the same path. Maybe Ziming will have a heroic death saving Xiuying or Ryo. Maybe in one scene he will regret what he did and will have a heroic death, it is possible and i saw this things happening in other stories.
I really feel Xiuying will come back in the story, we can ser her in the last chapter concept art, i know a lot of things changed but it is not impossible for Xiuying to come back to the story, would be beautiful if Xiuying come back.
All i know is that the story between Ziming and Xiuying is one of the most important parts of the story in my opinion, it really needs a nice closure about this.
7. What Is The Significance Of The Shenmue Tree?
Shenhua means "flower of the Shenmue tree." Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i remember that in Shenmue II Ryo feels a connection with the Shenmue tree, like the tree is protecting him and Shenhua, in Shenmue II we can see a mystical vibe about the Shenmue tree, in Shenmue III we didn't saw that but i really feel that Ryo and Shenhua will go to Luoyang and there we will see another Shenmue tree.
I think that there will be a lot of revelations maybe about the mirrors, the Shenmue tree, Shenhua's powers and maybe even about Shenhua's parents, what happened to them and how and why Yushen Yuan decided to take care of Shenhua? how this happened? it would be nice to see in Luoyang a lot of revelations, i really need answers to this questions.
Shenmue is the name of this game series so i really hope that the Shenmue tree will be important, i think the Shenmue tree really protect them and maybe the Shenmue tree can give a special power for Shenhua.
6. What Happened To Ryo's Mother?
In Shenmue III we saw that the name of Ryo's mother is Akane and that she died of a "mysterious illness." It is mysterious to me that we have a lot of story and informations even about the NPCs that don't appear that much but in the case of Ryo's mother we have little informations.
What happened to Akane while Iwao was in China? she really died of a mysterious illness? maybe she decided to fake her own death and went to another place. In other stories i saw similar things to this, characters that we thought that died but appeared alive later in the story, like a plot twist in the story, it is not impossible.
Some people even say that Shenhua is Ryo's sister. The thing is that we don't know much about his mother, what she wanted in life, her dreams, her feelings and much more. We don't know what her personality was, we don't even know how she was physically, we don't know what she was capable of doing so this is why i made this theory that maybe she fake her own death while Iwao was in China, this way she could go to another place and do something important that she wanted.
Maybe people here will think that this is a crazy theory, yeah... i'm thinking too much... She will be a important character? only time will tell, all i know is that i want to see more about Akane.
5. Who Are The Other Chi You Men Leaders?
The structure of the Chi You Men was inspired by Chinese mythology. The group's leadership mirrors the four mythological creatures that serve as guardians of the four cardinal directions, with a fifth creature that reigns over them.
Lan Di serves as the group's Eastern leader, who is in charge of the group's operations in the South. Niao Sun is another leader, i don't remember now if we know what cardinal direction she take care of. This means there are still 3 leaders to see, 2 of the other cardinal directions and the big boss pulling the strings (Tentei)
This is a really important part of the story and i think we will see all the leaders in Shenmue IV.
4. What's The Deal With Shenhua's powers?
Shenhua remains one of the most mysterious characters in the Shenmue world. How many powers does she have? what is the extent of her powers? it is something limited or she can do this powers whenever she wants? so many questions... this is really important in my opinion and i feel that we will see everything about this.
3. What Happened In Mengcun?
In my opinion this is one of the most important things about the plot of Shenmue. Iwao Hazuki and Sunming Zhao were friends so what happened in Mengcun? we know that they trained together in Bailu Village, in Shenmue III we saw that the mirrors were entrusted to Sunming Zhao at one point in the story. In Shenmue III we even learned that after Sunming Zhao's death Longsun Zhao was raised by The Chi You Men.
Who gave the mirrors to Sunming Zhao? why this person did this? probably the person did this with bad intentions, i feel that it is really possible that Yuanda Zhu is the real villan of the Shenmue story and that he probably planned everything about this from the start, maybe he really is Tentei, what other chararacter could be Tentei? i really don't know, all i know is that everything about this is important and i hope we can see this things in Shenmue IV and Shenmue V.
2. What Do The Mirrors Actually Do?
In the first game Master Chen said that the mirrors are the key to resurrecting a mythical beast called Chiyou. In Shenmue II Ryo finds out that the mirrors actually function as a map to the treasure of the Qing dynasty.
Maybe the mirrors really have multiple functions, it is possible, i really want to see what will happen when the mirrors are together.
1. Will Ryo Get His Revenge?
Like i said in another thread i think he will not get his revenge, something will happen and he will lose purpose, i think he will forget about revenge. I reall feel that Ryo and Longsun Zhao wil discover the truth about what happened in Mengcun, depending on what are the revelations many things can change in the story, like a plot twist in the story, maybe Longsun Zhao will even want revenge against The Chi You men for twisting his mind since he was a kid, like a plot twist in the story, this things are not impossible.
I really need to know what happen in Mengcun between Iwao Hazuki and Sunming Zhao, like i said depending on what are the revelations many things can change for Ryo Hazuki and Longsun Zhao.
Probably Ryo will not go in the same path as Ziming and Longsun Zhao, the path of Ryo will be different and the cycle of revenge will end.
And now i'm imagining what Sergeynest said in another thread. Ryo's Band-Aid falling in the ground after Ryo deciding to forget about revenge. In my opinion it would be so awesome this happening after Ryo win a fight against Longsun Zhao, he decide not to kill Longsun Zhao but he will win the fight and then the band-aid starts faliing in the ground as the thoughts of revenge fades away, to show that Ryo is fully healed about all of this things, it can be a emotional and beautiful scene.
Bonus: How many moves (Akira's moves/Bajiquan moves) Ryo will learn in the next chapters in the story? what moves Ryo will learn? who will be the next master of Ryo? i think it would be a Shaolin master.
Shenmue IV have so much potential to be a beautiful, emotional and intense game, i really hope that this will happen.
If i remember other questions i will post in this thread. Here we can talk everything about the questions in the story, our theories and much more, i love talking about this things, thank you.
https://gamerant.com/questions-shenmue-fans-need-answering/
First i will talk about the questions in the link, my opinion about what will happen.
10. What happened to Baisha?
In one kickstarter video Yu Suzuki said... "Baisha will show off what Shenmue III is all about." We saw in the development updates that the team began working on Baisha quite early on in the production.
So what happened with Baisha? why Baisha was cut out of the game? i think there are 2 options for this. Maybe this was a budget problem or Yu Suzuki decided that he will put Baisha in Shenmue IV, maybe other thing happened, i really don't know.
Like i said in another thread i feel that Shenmue III didn't turn out exactly the way Yu Suzuki really wanted so i feel that the decision to cut out Baisha of Shenmue III was not a easy decision for him. We will see Baisha in Shenmue IV or we will never see this place in game format? only time will tell.
9. Who Wrote The Mysterious Poetry Scroll?
In my opinion The Mysterious Poetry Scroll will be important, Ryo will probably learn an important move with the master that wrote the scroll, someone correct me if i'm wrong but i don't remember the scroll in the inventory of Shenmue II and Shenmue III, i really need to play this games again, but even if is not in the inventory it is possible that the scroll will be important, to me the scroll is really important.
8. What Happened to Ziming Hong?
In my opinion Ziming joined the Chi You Men and achieved his revenge but with a price, after he completed his revenge i think he had to stay in the organization for some reason, Ziming continued to be a good person or it is too late for him?
Xiuying said to Ryo... "You still don't understand, martial arts are used to protect people's life, if you use your fists otherwise you will walk on the path of evil, too..."
I think will be nice to show that maybe is too late for him, this way it can show for Ryo the damage revenge can do with people, that now Ziming is on the path of evil and Ryo will not follow the same path.
In the manga side stories Ziming said... "Become Strong, Xiuying! Stronger than me." So we will see a fight to the death between Ziming and Xiuying? Xiuying is strong but she really can kill Ziming? i'm saying this because she loves her brother so it will be really hard if she have to do this, it will be a hard decision for her, this part can be so intense and emotional.
Another fight that would be nice to see is Ryo VS Ziming, this way maybe Ryo will even be tempted to go to the path of evil, maybe Ziming will win and say to Ryo... "You are pathethic, you are weak, this way you will never defeat Longsun Zhao, only in the dark side you can get the real power to achieve your revenge, just like i did."
I don't know, something like this, i think it would be cool to show that Ziming have similar things with Ryo, like Ziming is a Ryo that went in the wrong path and that Ryo will not follow the same path. Maybe Ziming will have a heroic death saving Xiuying or Ryo. Maybe in one scene he will regret what he did and will have a heroic death, it is possible and i saw this things happening in other stories.
I really feel Xiuying will come back in the story, we can ser her in the last chapter concept art, i know a lot of things changed but it is not impossible for Xiuying to come back to the story, would be beautiful if Xiuying come back.
All i know is that the story between Ziming and Xiuying is one of the most important parts of the story in my opinion, it really needs a nice closure about this.
7. What Is The Significance Of The Shenmue Tree?
Shenhua means "flower of the Shenmue tree." Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i remember that in Shenmue II Ryo feels a connection with the Shenmue tree, like the tree is protecting him and Shenhua, in Shenmue II we can see a mystical vibe about the Shenmue tree, in Shenmue III we didn't saw that but i really feel that Ryo and Shenhua will go to Luoyang and there we will see another Shenmue tree.
I think that there will be a lot of revelations maybe about the mirrors, the Shenmue tree, Shenhua's powers and maybe even about Shenhua's parents, what happened to them and how and why Yushen Yuan decided to take care of Shenhua? how this happened? it would be nice to see in Luoyang a lot of revelations, i really need answers to this questions.
Shenmue is the name of this game series so i really hope that the Shenmue tree will be important, i think the Shenmue tree really protect them and maybe the Shenmue tree can give a special power for Shenhua.
6. What Happened To Ryo's Mother?
In Shenmue III we saw that the name of Ryo's mother is Akane and that she died of a "mysterious illness." It is mysterious to me that we have a lot of story and informations even about the NPCs that don't appear that much but in the case of Ryo's mother we have little informations.
What happened to Akane while Iwao was in China? she really died of a mysterious illness? maybe she decided to fake her own death and went to another place. In other stories i saw similar things to this, characters that we thought that died but appeared alive later in the story, like a plot twist in the story, it is not impossible.
Some people even say that Shenhua is Ryo's sister. The thing is that we don't know much about his mother, what she wanted in life, her dreams, her feelings and much more. We don't know what her personality was, we don't even know how she was physically, we don't know what she was capable of doing so this is why i made this theory that maybe she fake her own death while Iwao was in China, this way she could go to another place and do something important that she wanted.
Maybe people here will think that this is a crazy theory, yeah... i'm thinking too much... She will be a important character? only time will tell, all i know is that i want to see more about Akane.
5. Who Are The Other Chi You Men Leaders?
The structure of the Chi You Men was inspired by Chinese mythology. The group's leadership mirrors the four mythological creatures that serve as guardians of the four cardinal directions, with a fifth creature that reigns over them.
Lan Di serves as the group's Eastern leader, who is in charge of the group's operations in the South. Niao Sun is another leader, i don't remember now if we know what cardinal direction she take care of. This means there are still 3 leaders to see, 2 of the other cardinal directions and the big boss pulling the strings (Tentei)
This is a really important part of the story and i think we will see all the leaders in Shenmue IV.
4. What's The Deal With Shenhua's powers?
Shenhua remains one of the most mysterious characters in the Shenmue world. How many powers does she have? what is the extent of her powers? it is something limited or she can do this powers whenever she wants? so many questions... this is really important in my opinion and i feel that we will see everything about this.
3. What Happened In Mengcun?
In my opinion this is one of the most important things about the plot of Shenmue. Iwao Hazuki and Sunming Zhao were friends so what happened in Mengcun? we know that they trained together in Bailu Village, in Shenmue III we saw that the mirrors were entrusted to Sunming Zhao at one point in the story. In Shenmue III we even learned that after Sunming Zhao's death Longsun Zhao was raised by The Chi You Men.
Who gave the mirrors to Sunming Zhao? why this person did this? probably the person did this with bad intentions, i feel that it is really possible that Yuanda Zhu is the real villan of the Shenmue story and that he probably planned everything about this from the start, maybe he really is Tentei, what other chararacter could be Tentei? i really don't know, all i know is that everything about this is important and i hope we can see this things in Shenmue IV and Shenmue V.
2. What Do The Mirrors Actually Do?
In the first game Master Chen said that the mirrors are the key to resurrecting a mythical beast called Chiyou. In Shenmue II Ryo finds out that the mirrors actually function as a map to the treasure of the Qing dynasty.
Maybe the mirrors really have multiple functions, it is possible, i really want to see what will happen when the mirrors are together.
1. Will Ryo Get His Revenge?
Like i said in another thread i think he will not get his revenge, something will happen and he will lose purpose, i think he will forget about revenge. I reall feel that Ryo and Longsun Zhao wil discover the truth about what happened in Mengcun, depending on what are the revelations many things can change in the story, like a plot twist in the story, maybe Longsun Zhao will even want revenge against The Chi You men for twisting his mind since he was a kid, like a plot twist in the story, this things are not impossible.
I really need to know what happen in Mengcun between Iwao Hazuki and Sunming Zhao, like i said depending on what are the revelations many things can change for Ryo Hazuki and Longsun Zhao.
Probably Ryo will not go in the same path as Ziming and Longsun Zhao, the path of Ryo will be different and the cycle of revenge will end.
And now i'm imagining what Sergeynest said in another thread. Ryo's Band-Aid falling in the ground after Ryo deciding to forget about revenge. In my opinion it would be so awesome this happening after Ryo win a fight against Longsun Zhao, he decide not to kill Longsun Zhao but he will win the fight and then the band-aid starts faliing in the ground as the thoughts of revenge fades away, to show that Ryo is fully healed about all of this things, it can be a emotional and beautiful scene.
Bonus: How many moves (Akira's moves/Bajiquan moves) Ryo will learn in the next chapters in the story? what moves Ryo will learn? who will be the next master of Ryo? i think it would be a Shaolin master.
Shenmue IV have so much potential to be a beautiful, emotional and intense game, i really hope that this will happen.
If i remember other questions i will post in this thread. Here we can talk everything about the questions in the story, our theories and much more, i love talking about this things, thank you.
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