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Also, totally unrelated note, I have been obsessed with sriracha sauce lately. You can literally put it on everything, and the pain is pleasure.

Dude, glad to hear! I grew up with this stuff, and its wild how popular it's gotten. I always thought it was going to be one of those condiments that only Asians would commonly use and AT most would be a niche fad, but I love that it's grown beyond that. Its a part of so much what I eat that it's even something I add when I make marinara sauce.
 
I thought the situation in UK was bull, but they apparently arrested a woman for calling a trans man.
Clownworld.

Yup, it's the continuation of what I brought up in this post.

Article for anyone interested. Perhaps the scariest part is this:

Mrs Scottow denied harassing or defaming Miss Hayden and said she holds a 'genuine and reasonable belief' that a human 'cannot practically speaking change sex', but Deputy Judge Jason Coppel QC issued an interim injunction that bans her from posting any personal information about Miss Hayden on social media, 'referencing her as a man' or linking her to her 'former male identity'.

Hmmmm...

In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable—what then?
 
So, Mrs. Scottow, mum of three, master student, 38 years of age, (God I hate the Daily Mail), spend her free time arguing with people that identify as a different gender than their birth gender that they are wrong to do as they want and need. Okay. To each their own I guess.
 
So, Mrs. Scottow, mum of three, master student, 38 years of age, (God I hate the Daily Mail), spend her free time arguing with people that identify as a different gender than their birth gender that they are wrong to do as they want and need.

No, she argues that doing as they want and need doesn't magically make them something else. No statement is made on whether it is "wrong" to do so.
 
It seems trivial arguments with people over the internet is a common past-time these days. :D

True that.

Well, I'll admit one of the few things I've agreed on in this topic is that hot chili sauce makes every savoury meal better. As a left leaning Norwegian page upon page is alienating. Probably the right thing to do would be to offer up counter-arguments, but I can't be bothered in a 20/1 ratio debate. I can always do that on Twitter instead.

Keep enjoying debating, guys, and stay civil ??
 
Still puzzling to me why she would spend her time doing that.
For the same reason you spend your time thinking about why she spent her time like that ?
Hegel would find quite funny why you choose to focus on the person that did nothing wrong, than focusing on the authoritarian use of legitimate violence.
 
Government regulation of speech (and incomplete criticism thereof) takes people's eyes off the ball. Derailing progress in medical science morally disgusts me. There can be no delay. The only important fact is that good people are suffering tremendously. Mrs. Scottow isn't the ultimate problem facing Ms. Hayden, and Deputy Judge Jason Coppel QC isn't solving it for her by pretending the government is doing all it can or should. Instead of bickering over words and pretending social media bullying is the only obstacle to peace, let's actually fund the medical science and technology necessary to actually transition suffering people safely, permanently, and completely, at the genetic level. Taking medications for the rest of one's life (at best), and more often being deprived of them due to lack of funding by bigoted healthcare systems and overextended insurance establishments, is not a sufficient stopping point in the quest for a real resolution for dysphoria. I don't know what infuriates me more -- the ignorance of bullying, or blithe satisfaction with inadequate progress.
 
I think the only "workable" gene editing we have today is CRISPR and it can create unwanted mutations, that's why testing on humans is a touchy subject.
But what if gender dysphoria is actually a mix of different disorders ? if then you would only be aggravating the problem, and supressing dissenting views is making it worse. We are very behind on mental health knowledge, I bet anyone could go to a psychiatrist and get away with a prescription.
 
Exactly. We don't know enough about the brain, and that is the main issue. The U.S. government spends $600 billion on the military annually. It spends only $39 billion on medical research annually, and only $240 million of that on brain research -- the most important organ in the body. 6 million Americans suffer from severe brain disease, and many millions more from related conditions. Quite frankly, anything less than initiating something like a Manhatten Project of the Brain doesn't even come close to demonstrating an appreciation of the immense suffering occurring all around us, all over the world, right now. 70 million victims worldwide is an extremely conservative estimate. And American billionaires contribute almost $0 annually for neuro-medical research. Even all the fame and influence (years ago) of actor Michael J. Fox over the last 18 years has only been able to collect ~$700 million for a Parkinson's Disease cure. Jeff Bezos makes ~$6 billion per trading day! This is egregious. It's a disgrace of historic proportions. Only once the people find a way to induce their own legislatures to set their national priorities straight, will humanity progress; not before. It's as simple and as difficult as that.
 
The UN has published a new set of draft guidelines.

DRAFT Guidelines on the implementation of the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography

There are a few problems with it. Going in order the document gives (emphasis mine):

33. In preventing the sale and sexual exploitation of children, States parties should pay attention to root causes underlying these problems, such as harmful social norms, particularly with regard to complex notions related to masculinity and gender, which may contribute to perpetuating the problem, and which require specific awareness raising measures. An important aspect underlying these offences lies in the demand that exists, both among sex offenders and economic profiteers, of children for purposes of sexual exploitation and abuse.

We start with what is essentially "TOXIC MASCULINITY CAUSES PAEDOPHILIA". "Gender" would've been more than sufficient here, but they had to blame men at some point.

34. The Committee recommends States parties to take all necessary measures, with due attention to the gender dimension, to identify, support and monitor children at risk of falling victims of the offences covered by the OPSC, especially children in vulnerable situations such as migrant and refugee children, children in street situations, child domestic workers, LGBTI children, children in alternative care and children deprived of liberty, children from economically vulnerable families and children experiencing social exclusion or isolation, and to strengthen prevention programmes and the protection of potential victims.

I feel like "LGBTI children" should be considered child abuse in itself. Also arguing against sexual exploitation of children while also applying sexual orientations to those children sends some mixed messages.

That's not the important stuff though. This is:

56. Child pornography is defined in article 2 OPSC as “any representation of a child engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities, regardless of the means used, or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes”. The qualification “by whatever means” reflects the broad range of material available in a variety of media, online and offline. It includes, inter alia: visual material such as photographs, movies, drawings and cartoons; audio representations; any digital media representation; live performances; written materials in print or online; and physical objects such as sculptures, toys, or ornaments.

Drawings, cartoons, audio (does ageplay count?), stories, and figurines of fictional children are all illegal under the U.N. proposal.

Maybe they didn't mean to ban fictional characters, maybe they only meant drawings etc. of real children.

57. The Committee urges States parties to prohibit, by law, child sexual abuse material in any form. The Committee notes that such material is increasingly circulating online, and strongly recommends States parties to ensure that relevant provisions of their Criminal Codes cover all forms of material, including when the acts listed in article 3.1(c) are committed online and including when such material represents realistic representations of non-existing children.

Oh never mind, they explicitly state it applies to non-existing children too.

Even when no actual child is involved, the UN insist that such material be made a prisonable offence.

Under these guidelines I'd be prosecuted for making an inappropriate joke about Fangmei.

But why are they doing this?

58. The Committee is of the view that “simulated explicit sexual activities” should be interpreted as including any material, online or offline, that depicts or otherwise represents any person appearing to be a child engaged in real or simulated sexually explicit conduct and realistic and/or virtual depictions of a child engaged in sexually explicit conduct. Such depictions contribute to normalising the sexualisation of children and fuels the demand of child sexual abuse material.

It contributes to the normalising the sexualisation of children. Just like beating up that feminist in RDR2 normalises violence against women, and playing GTA makes you a school shooter!

I have a question for everyone else: are you capable of distinguishing between fiction and reality? Because these guidelines make perfect sense for someone who can't. Maybe I have a superpower that gives me the ability to know that my saying "I pick up a bottle and take a drink" doesn't actually quench my thirst.

No wonder nobody takes the UN seriously.
 
The UN is doing its best with minimal support from concentrated capital and the political talent of nation states to establish the foundations of a truly World Federal Government. It's essentially an untried nation state legislating without experience, but it has to take its first steps, meet resistance, and learn to judge between reasonable complaints and anti-unification agitation. For example, under these laws it would be unclear if literature or indeed any art might be protected under other UN free speech statutes which it is bound not to contradict... eventually.

Unless we have a united humanity under one kind of law for humanity qua humanity (as opposed to particular territorial laws suitable for unavoidable and indeed desirable human diversity), or at least a permanent council tending toward that ideal while simultaneously fostering the ideal balance of regional robustness, there's going to be a lot of needless violence and destruction in the future.

But to answer your overarching question -- in my opinion, the ideology underlying every such policy based on the 'this or that art, speech, or experience causes this or that personal psychological or societal evil' is based on the psychology cult founded by Sigmund Freud et al about a century ago, which continues to be taken as the unquestioned tacit premise for most government policy makers, journalists, curriculum authors, and entertainment industry moguls. Even in religion. I call it a cult specifically because most of what people the world over think they know about the mind is a tertiary inheritance via a Hollywood scriptwriter, and almost none of what Freud et al taught has any scientific/empirical basis whatsoever yet, and likely never will. Words like 'traumatized' and 'complex' long ago entered the public lexicon, and nothing short of a revolution will dislodge them. So far, however, the scientific/empirical record is quite clear and shows a completely different picture -- that there is no such thing as the 'mental'; only the brain, it's measurable structure and corresponding subjective consciousness. And if you could label the relational thing (since all objects of human thought require relationality in order to be thought), it would be 'will' or if you prefer old fashioned lingo 'the soul'. Some ideologues even call the relational thing 'the laws of nature' and believe it is one and the same for all phenomena. Thus clarified, progressive programmes have widely proliferated in as of yet very exclusive circles of neurologists whose understanding and power over the cognition and happiness of mankind has already utterly eclipsed Freud's subjective speculations. As Sam Harris has said in so many words, there are zip codes in university metroplexes like Boston that have far outmatched the scientific contributions of entire nations. So it is that knowledge must trickle up through rivers of capital to elected legislatures, and only then will law resemble reality, not the other way around.

Be at peace, Duck. The real Illuminati will not fail the human race nor lead us into oblivion. The ebb and flow of error will obtain until the end of our epoch.
 
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The weird (and sad) thing with Smollett is that he was just too stupid.
If he did the same thing, but didn't report it, he would have gotten away with it.
 
Can Shenmue 3 SJW discussion be discussed here? I thought it was a fruitful discussion but didn’t get a chance to chime in.
 
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