Random Shenmue III Thoughts

[Tsukuyomimagi99]

Those are some cool moves!
The're is a guy on Twitter who does amazing combos in Shenmue like you would't believe! I can't really recal his name tho.

You mean Kenjito Master? Or the Japanese Shenmue Fan “Aru” on Twitter? Those are the only two I can think of.

Some peeps are speculating that Bloodstain could be the Shenmue slayer if Iga announces the official summer window to land around august. While, imo I think BS is carrying srs controversy up to its launch party. Just take a look at the recent PAX hand on reactions/damage control the publisher is doing. Also...do you guys think Iga is more famous than Yu suzuki when it comes to attracting retro/console game hype+popularity?

When it comes to marketing and transparency Iga and Bloodstained have done a much better job then Shenmue 3. While Yu has been honest with us, it’s usually through an obscure interview while Iga has done more publicly. He’s provided ample footage of gameplay and access to demo’s. The best Yu has done till recently is tell us game details in obscure magazines.

To say Bloodstained is a “Shenmue Killer” is a stretch seeing as how Shenmue 3 is a different game from Bloodstained with different aims. Bloodstained is a 2.5 metroidvania (or Igavania in this case) while Shenmue 3 is an open world game with much more intricate detail. To how that translates to the general audience I honestly don’t know since no one can predict the future. I believe that there’s room for both genres though given the popularity of titles like Hollow Knight and the Ryu ga Gotoku series.

I think whether Iga or Suzuki is better at attracting retro game hype is irrelevant. What matters most is what the men produce and how it resonates with the audience. People at E3 2015 weren’t reacting to Yu Suzuki returning to game design, they were reacting to the return of a game series they thought was dead.

 

[Dietsoap]

Some peeps are speculating that Bloodstain could be the Shenmue slayer if Iga announces the official summer window to land around august. While, imo I think BS is carrying srs controversy up to its launch party. Just take a look at the recent PAX hand on reactions/damage control the publisher is doing. Also...do you guys think Iga is more famous than Yu suzuki when it comes to attracting retro/console game hype+popularity?

Anyone trying to pit these games against each other is fucking retarded. No offense, of course.

Why does Ryo look like he is gonna run over someone with that forklift. That's one degenerate Japanese school boy.

Hint at the final showdown with Lan Di??

 

[Let's Get Sweaty]

"Get up," [rev, rev] "I'll allow you to die like a warr-" [screeeech] [splat] [erhu]

 

[Spaghetti]

"He shall appear from a far eastern land across the sea "

[HONK, HONK, HONK HONK]

 

[darksniper]

Everytime I get frustrated on the fact that we still have not seen or know that much of Shenmue III's gameplay. I remember that in comparison, we have waaay more knowledge of it than Death Stranding.

Maybe it's just how high profile Japanese devs prefer to promote their games... in secrecy.

 

[ManoTemple]

......Or just keep us surprised so that, by the release date, we're not desensitized by content overload.

 

[9dragons]

I agree the limited information pool can be annoying it cannot be compared with Death Stranding. We know nothing about Death Stranding. We have some trailers that do not even show what the game is about. No clue about the story and no clue about the gameplay.

 

[Spaghetti]

The floodgates will open for Shenmue III eventually. We're on the cusp of it now, I feel.

EDIT: I'm also gonna be bold and say we'll get our taste of something more substantial before June. No real evidence, just a gut feeling.

 

[9dragons]

I also think that more Information will come, when the time is ready. The Information pool of Shenmue 3 is not bad at all. But I understand why the fans want more. But I seriously think that the Information flow of Shenmue 3 is not that bad. Mabye small compared to big AAA tiles but sill decent. Maybe i am in a small minorty here but being bombed with footage of a upcoming game never inreceased my urge to Play the game right now. Getting to much footage before the game is even released can just spoil the game for me.

But back to the Information flow. There is another small game besides Shenmue 3 i am really wanting for. I am maybe one of the few People on the planet that care.

The Fear Effect Remake Fear Effect Reinvented

and for this game we really have nothing


Just a small teaser



and Little gameplay




No interviews, no updates on the game, no big media outlet is talking about. Compared to this Game Shenmue 3 is featured perfectly.

 

[reminisce]

I also think that more Information will come, when the time is ready. The Information pool of Shenmue 3 is not bad at all. But I understand why the fans want more. But I seriously think that the Information flow of Shenmue 3 is not that bad. Mabye small compared to big AAA tiles but sill decent. Maybe i am in a small minorty here but being bombed with footage of a upcoming game never inreceased my urge to Play the game right now. Getting to much footage before the game is even released can just spoil the game for me.

But back to the Information flow. There is another small game besides Shenmue 3 i am really wanting for. I am maybe one of the few People on the planet that care.

The Fear Effect Remake Fear Effect Reinvented

and for this game we really have nothing


Just a small teaser



and Little gameplay




No interviews, no updates on the game, no big media outlet is talking about. Compared to this Game Shenmue 3 is featured perfectly.

Indeed, no need to rush out marketing for no reason. Sometimes too much too early kills anticipation. Shenmue III was revealed at E3 2015 with virtually nothing and still trended Worldwide and even took down Kickstarter's servers. I think once that 1st Official Launch Trailer is finally revealed in a few months at E3, Gamescom, or whenever Ys Net, Deep Silver, and PlayStation decide, the greater public will finally get a real glimpse of what Shenmue III is all about...in the meantime, us insiders may get early trial version access or nice Yu Suzuki-sama interviews like the one today...

What more can we ask for? All I can say is it's a damn good time to be a Shenmue fan after 18 years...

Just look at this beauty...

 

[Araviel]

It is easy to forget how excited people became at the first announcement!

 

[Van Joel Sandwich]

I'm not worried about the graphics anymore (if I ever did).
All I want to see at this point is how the game plays and feels.
I want to see how the forklift driving handles, how the walking and running feels. How the combat is tweaked.
Also I'm super curious about the map itself.
Even tho we know Chobu is about the size o Shenmue 2's Hong Kong, I'm wondering how will everything be layed out, as we now know for sure there will be some supposely big docks. (I say supposely big because Yu san said in the past that, for him to include Forklifts the map had to be big enough).
So many questions... Can't wait for the next big flow of info.
I don't thing that its coming today tho.

 

[red]

I'm not worried about the graphics anymore (if I ever did).
All I want to see at this point is how the game plays and feels.
I want to see how the forklift driving handles, how the walking and running feels. How the combat is tweaked.

i just hope ryo feels weighed down to the ground. although witcher3 was a great game, it felt like the main character was floating.

also s3 could look amazing but the game has a lot of slow down and glitching, that would be a big problem for me.

 

[KiddMarine]

I was a little worried that Yakuza Kiwami 2's PC port would launch close to Shenmue III but thankfully it's just been anounced that it'll be out on May 9th.

 

[Dietsoap]

I was a little worried that Yakuza Kiwami 2's PC port would launch close to Shenmue III but thankfully it's just been anounced that it'll be out on May 9th.

Yeah, well over 3 month gap. Just hope my shitbox PC can run it at 60fps with enough settings turned down/off, lmao.

 

[Tsukuyomimagi99]

It wasn’t the lack of information people took issue with it was how what information we got was handled. The whole “Sony is funding the game!” Meme wouldn’t have occurred if people were simply told by Sony or anyone else behind the scenes that the money Sony was contributing wasn’t going towards development. This isn’t something Iga had a problem with when he came out and simply admitted to the public that the Kickstarter was to gauge interest from outside investors. The information we got from interviews had to be translated and complied instead of being readily accessible. Not everyone is a hardcore Shenmue fan like people here on the dojo and aren’t going to go fish for obscure information. We were promised a demo (something Iga has delivered on) which hasn’t emerged either.

Yu Suzuki is a creative genius and a master technician but marketing is not one of his strong points. I don’t think Iga is good at marketing either but everything about the Bloodstained campaign was clear and there wasn’t any ambiguity. Honestly, I think it was the fans who really marketed this game and pushed it towards the finish line. None of this really matters now since everything has worked out but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a bumpy ride that could’ve been handled better.

 

[Zoyous]

Not everyone is a hardcore Shenmue fan like people here on the dojo and aren’t going to go fish for obscure information. We were promised a demo (something Iga has delivered on) which hasn’t emerged either.

Trying to find out private business details about the funding of a game is a pretty hardcore pursuit, though - something done only by journalists and hardcore fans. It's clear that during the first several months following the Kickstarter campaign, YsNet and Shibuya were still in the process of seeking out additional possible sources of funding. In addition to that uncertain situation, it simply isn't done for private companies to be transparent with the general public about their finances.

Regarding the demo, as far as we know it's still expected.

 

[xatruio]

Didn't Adam Boyes on multiple occassions explain Sony was only funding a smal amount to cover publishing; disc and cover/case printing once the physical reward was reached?

Felt like the itnernet latched onto the "bad" marketing and "dark money" while conveniently ignoring an answer from Sony themselves, from one of three Sony people to really believe in Shenmue 3 (along with Cerny and Corsi).

Speaking of great people with faith in Yu and Shenmue; Ryan Payton, and most of all: Cedric Biscay. True hardcore fan who happens to have the capital and business to help make our dream game a reality.

 

[Tsukuyomimagi99]

Trying to find out private business details about the funding of a game is a pretty hardcore pursuit, though - something done only by journalists and hardcore fans. It's clear that during the first several months following the Kickstarter campaign, YsNet and Shibuya were still in the process of seeking out additional possible sources of funding. In addition to that uncertain situation, it simply isn't done for private companies to be transparent with the general public about their finances.

Regarding the demo, as far as we know it's still expected.

Sony was willing to make a comment that they were willing to throw in some “scratch” towards Shenmue 3 without explaining what that “scratch” was. Adam didn’t need to go into detail about it he could’ve just said “Just not towards the development of the game” I don’t see what’s so hardcore about that. Seeing as how this bit them in the behind later on to the point that Adam had to clarify his position and Yu had to apologize adding a simple “Not towards game development” comment would’ve cleared up any confusion.

 

[mjqjazzbar]

First acknowledgment from Sony in quite some time: