III was a ´reborn child´. You can't run before you learn how to walk.I'm sorry but I think it did hurt the series, yes. Not a deadly wound, hopefully, but a wound nonetheless.
I agree that the game, with the budget it had, could never live up to 18 years of hype and myth. And, with the premise it was conceived as a direct continuation of the story and the formula, it was also really unlikely that it was going to expand the audience by a lot and end up selling 5 or 10 million copies.
But it could have been a fully satisfying game, if it had delivered on a significant amount of story, and had more polish in some key areas that don't depend really much on budget, but on talent, like writing, QTE or UI design. I think that would have led to a situation where most of the current criticism would still exist (by general haters, clickbaity sites, and storefront wars), but the core values of the series would remain untouched, maybe strengthened a little.
Did the several bad Yakuza games hurt the series when Yakuza 6 concluded the story?
There are bad Yakuza games?
I didnt like 1 or 3 tbh. They're not horrible, but i dont care if i ever play them again. I probably wont to be fair. 3 especially
How can you possibly hurt a series that was dead and buried for 15 years? This is essentially the same "were we better without Shenmue III?" question and the answer is easily no as far as I'm concerned.
So it's harder than Yu losing all influence at SEGA then leaving. His former employer wanting nothing to do with the series and Yu having no control over Shenmue for over a decade? Yu having no team, no interest, no platform, no nothing?Now, the difficulty of making a new one, is even harder than it was prior to Shenmue III's development..
Because we may have simply traded the last installment in the series from S2 (a masterpiece) to S3 (a not-masterpiece).How can you possibly hurt a series that was dead and buried for 15 years?
I guess it's basically "do you think S3 could have been better?" There are those who think that, under the circumstances, this is the best game that we could have realistically hoped for (or close to it).This is essentially the same "were we better without Shenmue III?"
Please don't mention anything remotely maw-like! I have guests!Caves get me going too
Fun-fact: The Yakuza series didn't break 80 on metacritic until Yakuza 5. In fairness, nothing other than Dead Souls has below a 75. (I agree that it's a terrible metric, regardless.)If i recall correctly the average metacritic score for those games are in the 70s.
Tbh i dont give a damn about metacritic, but the score anit far from shenmue 3.
Once Kiryu said he was leaving Okinawa, I guess I was done, subconsciously, because I just have no motivation to go back to it. I think it's that I find the story to be too at odds with a lot of the gameplay.*I couldn't finish Yakuza 3. I liked the concept but found the execution underwhelming.
I enjoyed S3 enough for it to feel worth it. It made me feel something I hadn't felt in a game since Shenmue II -- that trademark Shenmue atmosphere. The music, the exploration, the environments, the NPCs going about their business. None of that went to waste on me. It wasn't perfect but I still enjoyed it more than a lot of games I play nowadays.Because we may have simply traded the last installment in the series from S2 (a masterpiece) to S3 (a not-masterpiece).
Yeah, I just felt that the "main" land development/political campaign plotline was pretty darn boring.Once Kiryu said he was leaving Okinawa, I guess I was done, subconsciously, because I just have no motivation to go back to it. I think it's that I find the story to be too at odds with a lot of the gameplay.
I was actually somewhat interested in aspects of that, just because Okinawa has been at odds with US military bases on their island for 40+ years, but there's a bunch of literature that is way better at capturing this struggle anyway. It was the comical level of convenience when Kiryu goes looking for his elected officials that kind of got me.Yeah, I just felt that the "main" land development/political campaign plotline was pretty darn boring.
Yeah maybe in its whole its the ´worst´. But the way I see it is that each Shenmue game has its own strengths and weaknesses. There were many things I liked about III that the first two didn't have.Shenmue 3 is the worse game in the series but it didn't hurt the series. We went 15 years with nothing.
Whilst I agree with the majority of this post, I do have to question whether Shenmue 3 needed to be released for the developers to know that fans wouldn’t enjoy having to repeatedly grind for money or a stamina system that effectively discourages exploration of the game’s world.Now they know what worked and what didn't.